Re: [pf] Risks, imposed or chosen/MEMES

by David A

20 December 2000 12:34 UTC

Kaleopono,

You must have missed the headline: God is dead. (And you have killed him.)

Please take your prayers and shove them up your pious, petty ass.

David


-----Original Message-----
From:    Kaleopono ssa@ilhawaii.net
Sent:    Tue, 19 Dec 2000 19:17:36 -1000
To:      davidnh@visto.com, maacsp@hunterlink.net.au, 
positive-futures@igc.topica.com, jleeak@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [pf] Risks, imposed or chosen/MEMES


David A wrote:

> It is time to put away our old gods and become gods ourselves.
>
> David

The Greeks cautioned against hubris and pride because of the blindness they
instill in afflicted persons.  Afflicted persons do not have the capacity to
see.  They delude themselves by thinking that their vision is clear.

The Greeks developed the principle of the Golden Mean, otherwise known as
"moderation in all things."  Such moderation applies particularly to matters
of godliness.  A mythologist might be able to point out, using academically
acceptable learned references and examples, how far contemporary Western
materialist culture has strayed from its original cultural roots in Greek
and earlier, aboriginal beginnings.  David is a product of this wayward and
forgetful  culture, one whose opinions reflect this culture's conditioned
(brainwashed) hubris and pridefulness.  Greek plays emphasized that hubris
begets tragedy.

In the context of Christian tradition, what David asserts is an
illustration of blasphemy, from which God-fearing Christians recoil in
horror.  The risk he thereby indicates he is willing to choose is the
greatest of all!  David evidently is living on the edge, throwing all
caution to the wind.  Is that choice smart or prudent?

In the context of Sufi tradition, David's assertion quoted above
illustrates the antics of the incautious and willful Commanding Self.  He is
behaving like a squaking parrot or an incessantly barking dog that
stimulus-response lunges for any morsel that falls to the ground (the dust
jacket picture for Idries Shah's book The Commanding Self is an ancient
Persian sculpture of a snarling dog that illustrates the Commanding Self's
behavioral characteristics).  Western culture is like the out-of-control
barking dog, too, set as it is on indulging its every whim.  There is no
hope for the heedless.

I am thankful that I am not walking in David A's shoes, for the road he is
travelling is fraught with difficulties that in his condition he will not
see even
when they are right in front of him.  Without the intercession of Grace,
David's trials and tribulations are likely to be painful and many.  Your
prayers, if sincere and heart-felt, might help him.  But it is mostly up to
him and what risks he chooses.

Hey, that's life (as David A himself says).

Kaleopono