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RE: [pf] Christianity
by Fitzsimmons, Diane
21 November 2000 15:07 UTC

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And to piggy-back on Nan's opening statement, we agreed that many
pos-futures types come to that world view from a deep spiritual base, some
of those Christians, such as myself.

I told her how I believe that many of the justice issues include Christians
at the front, and that it saddens me to see the stereotypical image of a
"born-again" Christian as one who wants to force his/her morality down
everyone's throat.  (I hate the use of the born-again adjective as if that
denotes a particular group of Christians; I believe by definition a
Christian must view him/herself as born again.)  The most advanced
Christians I have known are the ones demonstrating against capitol
punishment and nuclear war; working in the prisons and the shelters;
fighting for the environment and civil rights, etc.

I'll take it a step further: the older I get the harder time I have
reconciling wealth with being a Christian.  Of course, Christians (including
myself) often duck this issue by saying, "Define wealth."

My mind wonders about such things especially around Christmas, a Christian's
second-most important holiday.  I don't mind the secularization of the
holiday as much as I do the consumer frenzy practiced by the members of my
religion.

Bordering on Scrooge-like tendencies,
Diane Fitzsimmons
Norman, Okla.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nan Hildreth [mailto:nan.hildreth@pdq.net]
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 11:19 PM
> To: positive-futures@igc.topica.com
> Subject: [pf] Christianity
> 
> 
> Diane and I were yakking privately about Christianity and decided to
> include you all.  
> 
> According to Cecile, the materialists credo is:  
> I believe in the material universe as the only and ultimate reality, a
> universe controlled by fixed physical laws and blind chance.  
> 
> I maintain that all ideas about God or gods, enlightened 
> beings, prophets
> and saviors, or nonphysical beings or forces are superstitions and
> delusions ... Like the rest of life, my life and my 
> consciousness have no
> objective purpose, meaning or destiny. "
> 
> Do you believe that?  Or do you find that nasty and depressing?  
> 
> What alternatives are there?  Christianity?  Is it part of 
> the solution?
> Or part of the problem?  Or both?  What are its faults?  
> 
> 
> 
> Nan Hildreth 713-864-7108
> 
> "Enjoy creation's fruit without endangering it's 
> fruitfulness." - Calvin B.
> DeWitt in Earth-Wise: A Biblical Response to Environmental 
> Issues (1994).