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Re: Florida Electors [was A note from Bera, re: [pf] Representative Democracy?
by Molly Williams
18 November 2000 03:07 UTC

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Jill,

Here's the Florida statute:

103.011  Electors of President and Vice President.--Electors of
President and Vice President, known as presidential electors, shall be
elected on the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November of each
year the number of which is a multiple of 4. VOTES CAST FOR THE ACTUAL
CANDIDATES FOR PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT SHALL BE COUNTED AS VOTES
CAST FOR THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTORS SUPPORTING SUCH CANDIDATES. The
Department of State shall certify as elected the presidential electors
of the candidates for President and Vice President who receive the
highest number of votes. 

(Emphasis mine)

Further along, it says 
"Each such elector shall be a qualified elector of the party he or she
represents who HAS TAKEN AN OATH that he or she will vote for the
candidates of the party that he or she is nominated to represent.

(Emphasis mine)

[http://web.archive.org/web/20030424025313/http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=Ch0103/ch0103.htm]

(a) These folks are chosen by state party executive committees, so they
are party loyalists. Why would a Bush elector want to vote for Gore? Or
vice versa? 

(b) They would be breaking a sworn oath if they changed their vote.

This page --
http://web.archive.org/web/20030424025313/http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Index&Title_Request=IX
#TitleIX -- 
has all kinds of statutes on Contesting Elections, Voting Methods And
Procedure, 
Conducting Elections And Ascertaining The Results, Presidential
Electors, 
and Election Code: Violations and Penalties.

What's confusing is that they call voters electors throughout the
statutes, so it's hard to know when they're talking about voters or
actual electoral college electors.

~ Molly

Jill Taylor Bussiere wrote:
> 
> Molly,
>     I had heard too, many times this season, that electors are bound to vote
> the way they were elected to, whether it be legally bound or pledge bound,
> but that whether they are bound one way or the other, there is no legal
> recourse if they do not vote the way they are supposed to  -  - no
> prosecution, penalties, etc.
> 
> Anybody have any more information to either prove me wrong, or fill in?
> 
>                 Jill
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Molly Williams 
> To: 
> Cc: Positive Futures list 
> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 7:42 PM
> Subject: Re: A note from Bera, re: [pf] Representative Democracy?
> 
> > Actually, I think Florida electors ARE bound to vote the way they were
> > elected to.
> >
> > http://web.archive.org/web/20030424025313/http://www.nara.gov/fedreg/elctcoll/pledges.html#top
> >
> > ~ Molly
> >
> >
> > David MacClement wrote:
> > >
> > > A week ago, at 13:01 8/11/2000 -0800, Diane F. wrote:
> > > >According to Talk of the Nation, the electors of Florida and some other
> > > >states are not bound to vote the way they were elected to.  Think there
> > > >is any chance that they will vote the will of the people?